Hidden costs

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MM: There was another dimension that you introduced. You kind of suggested a little bit in terms of needing to understand the behavior of a logistics supply chain—or in this case, a transportation value chain. In classic economics, according to the work of Ronald Coase in his book, “Theory of the Firm,” he would refer to these as “transaction costs.” Transaction costs was his way—as a theorist and economist—to describe all of the handoffs. The communication, interactions and handoffs—as well as the delays associated with getting a business process completed.

So you were really calling attention to the fact that there were all these other hidden costs—almost like opportunity costs. A percentage of the truck that wasn’t fully loaded, and the amount of time it was sitting some place.

MB: Or the inability to ship something at a certain time, for lack of availability of capacity, and so forth.

Solving many of those problems, honestly, is easy for people once you give them access to the information.

MM: Right. Because it’s their data.

MB: Yes. It’s their data. The big headache here is integrating it from multiple systems. Representing it in a uniform way for people, getting it in the form they need, and in front of the eyes of the people that have to take action on it.

In that sense, solving the transportation and logistics problem is not just a matter of some computer-science oriented thing. It’s just as much — or more — of the basics of data display and information integration.

That said, those practices have until now been far too costly and far too complex for many companies to acquire. So, that’s what we’re going after and trying to make far more cost-effective.

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